The Guns Thread
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A story of my invention that had already been invented.
I was sitting in Biology today, I finished all my work a week ago. And I want to be a firearms/ballistics engineer, so I was thinking to my self, "I need to think of a badass rifle bullet design". So, I drew up a design that could be shot accurately but yet provide a devastating wound channel or hydrostatic shock. My design was a hollowed out lead lower part of the bullet with a copper jacket. Then the tip was a solid copper tip. Once the tip hits the target, it jams down into the hollowed lower and spreads out. This gives the flatter trajectory and accuracy of a traditional spitzer type pointed bullet, and also the devastating effect of a hollow point-like bullet. I was all excited about my creation and what I drew up so I showed my friend at lunch. He'd never heard of anything like it. Later that day, I was on the internet checking to see if it has been invented. And sure enough, it had. Not exactly like mine though, but enough to knock me down a few notches. This type of bullet is called a Ballistic tip or Plastic tip. Nosler Ballistic tips seem to be the most popular with it.
I can't believe it!
I was sitting in Biology today, I finished all my work a week ago. And I want to be a firearms/ballistics engineer, so I was thinking to my self, "I need to think of a badass rifle bullet design". So, I drew up a design that could be shot accurately but yet provide a devastating wound channel or hydrostatic shock. My design was a hollowed out lead lower part of the bullet with a copper jacket. Then the tip was a solid copper tip. Once the tip hits the target, it jams down into the hollowed lower and spreads out. This gives the flatter trajectory and accuracy of a traditional spitzer type pointed bullet, and also the devastating effect of a hollow point-like bullet. I was all excited about my creation and what I drew up so I showed my friend at lunch. He'd never heard of anything like it. Later that day, I was on the internet checking to see if it has been invented. And sure enough, it had. Not exactly like mine though, but enough to knock me down a few notches. This type of bullet is called a Ballistic tip or Plastic tip. Nosler Ballistic tips seem to be the most popular with it.
I can't believe it!
I don't think the plastic really does much to deform the rest of the projectile. I'm pretty sure it just disintegrates to let the bullet expand like a regular hollowpoint does.
One I find interesting is the older Soviet 7N1 SVD sniper round. It was a jacketed steel core backed by a lead knocker. I have yet to find any, but I guess it does a real number on soft targets.
One I find interesting is the older Soviet 7N1 SVD sniper round. It was a jacketed steel core backed by a lead knocker. I have yet to find any, but I guess it does a real number on soft targets.
Yeah, who knows. I think when I read about it, it said it either shatters or gets pushed in. But either way, it gets the job of expansion done. I wonder if I were to someday do it my way with the copper tip and lead jacked hollowed lower, it could be a little bit better. Who knows though. If I could think of this in 30 minutes in a day, maybe I can think of something else!
Very cool! Can you find any information on it? I'm getting more and more interested with ballistics.
Yeah, who knows. I think when I read about it, it said it either shatters or gets pushed in. But either way, it gets the job of expansion done. I wonder if I were to someday do it my way with the copper tip and lead jacked hollowed lower, it could be a little bit better. Who knows though. If I could think of this in 30 minutes in a day, maybe I can think of something else!
Very cool! Can you find any information on it? I'm getting more and more interested with ballistics.
Everyone knew about those explodey shooty things
Feel better?
yeah, me too,,,,I invented the wheel, but found out there was already a patten on it.
At least you understand. 
7.62x54R.net did baseline testing on the 7N1 as well as just about all other 7.62x54R milsurp seen in the last 10-20 years. The only cross-section photo I could find was from wikipedia. You'll notice that the overall design is very similar to the plastic-tipped type except that the core has two parts.
If you haven't watched this already, I highly recommend it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo030.htm
Props to Smith and Wesson and Ruger!
I had problems with a S&W model 22S semi-auto .22 cal target grade pistol with mis-feeds. I made a call, and they sent me a Fed-Ex shipping label. They fixed it for free and sent it back to me at no charge with an extra magazine!
My older S&W model 586 .357 Magnum had the thumb release on the cylinder crack and fall off. I got a new one in the mail!
Ruger is just as good! I have a 10/22 that I just shot the living shit out of, literally, 10's of thousands of rounds through high cap mags and 50 round barrels, and it began to mis-feed. I wore 2 barrels out on this thing, and they fixed the receiver with new parts for free!
I will buy more of their products in the future! I have a CWP, and am considering Ruger's "The Judge" wheel gun as my choice over the .380 spit-ball shooter that I carry now.
Why can't motorcycle manufacturers do this!
I had problems with a S&W model 22S semi-auto .22 cal target grade pistol with mis-feeds. I made a call, and they sent me a Fed-Ex shipping label. They fixed it for free and sent it back to me at no charge with an extra magazine!
My older S&W model 586 .357 Magnum had the thumb release on the cylinder crack and fall off. I got a new one in the mail!
Ruger is just as good! I have a 10/22 that I just shot the living shit out of, literally, 10's of thousands of rounds through high cap mags and 50 round barrels, and it began to mis-feed. I wore 2 barrels out on this thing, and they fixed the receiver with new parts for free!
I will buy more of their products in the future! I have a CWP, and am considering Ruger's "The Judge" wheel gun as my choice over the .380 spit-ball shooter that I carry now.
Why can't motorcycle manufacturers do this!