Either this weekend or the next we'll try it again and start a little earlier. Memorial weekend I have some xtra time off. Few choices to chose from. JV,Spangler if it'ts not to hot or Prescott Arizona if it is.Last weekend for us Red sticker guys and hot weather.I know what you mean. I've done that loop a few times now, and I still get confused. It sounds like you had a good time though. It's always a rush racing the sun back to camp.