Clean up, Haz-mat, I love it. Prince Sound is so screwed up from the environmental Nazis after the Exxon Valdez, it will NEVER recover! 
Toxins are a natural occurrence in this world.
Toxins are a natural occurrence in this world.
All Honda in the waterfall
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I dont know about Ca but Hazmat issues here are an easy 6 figure issue.
Long story short. Bought a piece of property here in 2006. wanted to subdivide it and build a new home. State came in, found and old 55gal oil drum and so far I have spent well over 350k in lawyer and environmentalist fees. Still no subdivision and I am officially broke... They through me right over the proverbial barrel...
Long story short. Bought a piece of property here in 2006. wanted to subdivide it and build a new home. State came in, found and old 55gal oil drum and so far I have spent well over 350k in lawyer and environmentalist fees. Still no subdivision and I am officially broke... They through me right over the proverbial barrel...
Im glad the guy is ok,its too bad about the heat tho,we dont need hazmat sniffing around this area, i forsee this route being toast.
Gulp. 
These river crossing sound like something I need to stay away from, mainly because I don't like to get my bike submerged but also the repercussions of something dumb happening. 
With the fast moving stream water, how would they even suggest the haz mat bozos go about the clean up? Not that I am saying there is nothing leaking into the water but after a few days or weeks I am thinking things would be pretty much washed away and diluted in the millions of gallons of water rushing by.
These river crossing sound like something I need to stay away from, mainly because I don't like to get my bike submerged but also the repercussions of something dumb happening. With the fast moving stream water, how would they even suggest the haz mat bozos go about the clean up? Not that I am saying there is nothing leaking into the water but after a few days or weeks I am thinking things would be pretty much washed away and diluted in the millions of gallons of water rushing by.
Especially with the extreme runoff this year.Gulp.
Gotta know where you buy and what comes with it! In Ohio, mineral rights are king! You can own the surface, but they can own everything a foot below the surface and rape your land, tear all the trees off it, dig it down to hundreds of feet, torture you with years of huge heavy equipment making racket 24/7, and leave you with a moonscape. But it's your moonscape!
I got lucky on the coal mining side in the fact that in the early 60's, coal companies would steal from each other. This one company came on my property owned by another, and used horizontal augers to steal the coal under my land, so the owner has no interest in F'g up my land today!
As far as anything else goes on my land, its totally lawless.The lesson is to do your homework! In my case it was WAY more than just records in the county. I made friends over the years in the mining industry around my area of interest. I had friends and friends of friends that gave me the low down on what could possibly happen in the future on my prospective land buy. Bottom line at the time was my land was fair game for mining! Very Bad! But I had GOOD friends in high places in the mining company. I actually contracted with them to take the coal on my property, and leave me a 60 foot deep lake 4 acres. I signed the contract. They built roads going back to the mining area....and shit themselves! Nobody kept records very well in the 60's, particularly when it came to robbing another mining company of it coal. So, they discovered that they already got the coal that they robbed 40 years ago and they just paid for nothing. It wasn't 2 years later they went out of business. To bad! I was going to be styling with a new lake, they would leave my woods alone, and they were the best in terms of reclamation!
Look at your deed to a prospective property carefully and all the covenants and rights of way that may come with it!
My land is safe and AWESONE!
Gulp.
Don't know about any cleanup activities since it may have been days/weeks since it happened however what effect will/did it have on the surrounding environement...plant and animal life? Also, does this water flow into a potable water resource, reservoir, etc.?
just makes you wonder!Don't know about any cleanup activities since it may have been days/weeks since it happened however what effect will/did it have on the surrounding environement...plant and animal life? Also, does this water flow into a potable water resource, reservoir, etc.?
The detrimental effects of two gallons of gas and a couple quarts of oil are negligible on the environment! But, you do live in CA, so that can be front page stuff for the anti's!
now that we have all seen this thread time to delete it so it is not fuel in the fire to close down this trail...James can this disappear?