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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hondacr500af" data-source="post: 161467" data-attributes="member: 1399">The KTM 450sxf may make the 58 claimed hp with only maybe 36 ftp of torque. Even if the 450f had 70 hp and only 45 ftps of torque. It will still never be like a 500cc two stroke. Plus the hp ratings verry from one dyno to the other. Especially those from the mags and manufacture. The 500cc two stroke has been under rated for years in fear of the manufatures not being able to sell them or race them. That has been writen and I will post it when I find it. Hp and torque are to verry different things.  A stock 450f will never have the power a 500cc two stroke has.</blockquote>