I went in to look at the new Husky's...when I told the salesman I wanted to buy one he immediately said he could reduce the price without me even hinting it was too much.I have investigated Beta's. One of our dealerships here in Reno has them. I was looking at there 450F, and inquired about the price. They were pretty spendy. I dont recall exactly how much they were but I do remember that they were at least as much as a compareable KTM 450F or more in price.