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Petition to reintroduce 2T bikes to AMA MX and SX events
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<blockquote data-quote="James" data-source="post: 54703" data-attributes="member: 2"><p><img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/thumb.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumb:" title="Thumb :thumb:" data-shortname=":thumb:" /></p><p></p><p>They're not banned, they just aren't competitive against the modern 4 strokes anymore, due to rule changes. So basically none of the big teams use them anymore. If you really wanted to you could bring a 2 stroke to a National (or Supercross) event and attempt to qualify, people are actually doing that right now. Look at the qualifying results from Indy Supercross this year:</p><p></p><p>Scroll down to the number 37 qualifier (Alex Ray) and look at what bike he has, it's a KX250.</p><p><a href="http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/10/sxpcovr.pdf" target="_blank">http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/10/sxpcovr.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>Here's the one from the last Outdoors race (Freestone), check out the 67th qualifer (Tanner Young), he's on a YZ250.</p><p><a href="http://americanmotocrossresults.com/data/2011/02/450_qc_ovr.pdf" target="_blank">http://americanmotocrossresults.com/data/2011/02/450_qc_ovr.pdf</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>The movement I've seen was to change the rules to allow the 2 strokes to have bigger displacement, as that's about the only way [I know of] in making them more competitive.</p><p></p><p></p><p>However if you go look at the amateur ranks you'll notice that they do have equal displacement rules, which means 250F's race against 250 2 strokes. However the 250's still aren't very competitive, especially in the lower classes, however that has to due with the lack of skill. It's most likely fed by the mentality that a bigger bike makes you faster, however as you probably well know, for the great majority of people that isn't necessarily true.</p><p></p><p>There now you have my .02 cents. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/rant.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rant:" title="Rant :rant:" data-shortname=":rant:" /><img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/smirk.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":smirk:" title="Smirk :smirk:" data-shortname=":smirk:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Edit:</strong> Guess I should've read the above link first. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/bonk.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bonk:" title="Bonk :bonk:" data-shortname=":bonk:" /></p><p></p><p>The petition <em><strong>is</strong></em> for the AMA to change the displacement rules. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/thumb.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumb:" title="Thumb :thumb:" data-shortname=":thumb:" /></p><p>The Pro AMA Rulebook currently says this:</p><p></p><p><strong>3.1</strong> <u>Engine Displacements</u><p style="margin-left: 20px"> a. 250 Motocross Class: 0 – 125cc 2-Stroke / 150 – 250cc 4-stroke</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">b. 450 Motocross Class: 150 – 250cc 2-Stroke / 251 – 450cc 4-stroke</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James, post: 54703, member: 2"] :thumb: They're not banned, they just aren't competitive against the modern 4 strokes anymore, due to rule changes. So basically none of the big teams use them anymore. If you really wanted to you could bring a 2 stroke to a National (or Supercross) event and attempt to qualify, people are actually doing that right now. Look at the qualifying results from Indy Supercross this year: Scroll down to the number 37 qualifier (Alex Ray) and look at what bike he has, it's a KX250. [URL]http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/10/sxpcovr.pdf[/URL] Here's the one from the last Outdoors race (Freestone), check out the 67th qualifer (Tanner Young), he's on a YZ250. [URL]http://americanmotocrossresults.com/data/2011/02/450_qc_ovr.pdf[/URL] The movement I've seen was to change the rules to allow the 2 strokes to have bigger displacement, as that's about the only way [I know of] in making them more competitive. However if you go look at the amateur ranks you'll notice that they do have equal displacement rules, which means 250F's race against 250 2 strokes. However the 250's still aren't very competitive, especially in the lower classes, however that has to due with the lack of skill. It's most likely fed by the mentality that a bigger bike makes you faster, however as you probably well know, for the great majority of people that isn't necessarily true. There now you have my .02 cents. :rant::smirk: [B]Edit:[/B] Guess I should've read the above link first. :bonk: The petition [I][B]is[/B][/I] for the AMA to change the displacement rules. :thumb: The Pro AMA Rulebook currently says this: [B]3.1[/B] [U]Engine Displacements[/U][INDENT] a. 250 Motocross Class: 0 – 125cc 2-Stroke / 150 – 250cc 4-stroke b. 450 Motocross Class: 150 – 250cc 2-Stroke / 251 – 450cc 4-stroke[/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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