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<blockquote data-quote="James" data-source="post: 60357" data-attributes="member: 2"><img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/shocked.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":shocked:" title="Shocked&nbsp; &nbsp; :shocked:" data-shortname=":shocked:" /> Powervalves? Damn that was almost like cheating if you race against somebody without them. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/naughty.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":naughty:" title="Naughty&nbsp; &nbsp; :naughty:" data-shortname=":naughty:" />I'd say it's all about what we grew up to and what we're accustom to. I personally don't think that they're taking the rider at of the equation (on a STOCK bike), times are just changing and so are the bikes. For example look at suspension, were you hitting 90-100 foot triples on your 89 rm250? I'm guessing you weren't, however now it's nothing thanks to &quot;modern&quot; suspension. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/lol.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="lol&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> You still need the balls to do it though and I don't see how that can be eliminated. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/noidea.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":noidea:" title="Noidea&nbsp; &nbsp; :noidea:" data-shortname=":noidea:" />Did FI make the bikes faster? uhh most likely. Are they easier to ride?&nbsp; Probably, thanks to no more bog. However that translates into faster&nbsp; laptimes for everybody. You'll still have the same battles, it'll just&nbsp; be at a faster pace. Which if you stop and think about it, makes it even more dangerous (higher speed <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/crash.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":crash:" title="Crash&nbsp; &nbsp; :crash:" data-shortname=":crash:" />)I never heard of ignition maps that act like traction control, they just move/reduce your power. Sure it'll reduce wheel spin but that's because it took away the power. BTW the power reduction isn't &quot;on the fly&quot; like real traction control, but constant. Might as well jump on a 350. <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/tongue.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":P" title="Tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P" data-shortname=":P" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="James, post: 60357, member: 2"] :shocked: Powervalves? Damn that was almost like cheating if you race against somebody without them. :naughty: I'd say it's all about what we grew up to and what we're accustom to. I personally don't think that they're taking the rider at of the equation (on a STOCK bike), times are just changing and so are the bikes. For example look at suspension, were you hitting 90-100 foot triples on your 89 rm250? I'm guessing you weren't, however now it's nothing thanks to "modern" suspension. :lol: You still need the balls to do it though and I don't see how that can be eliminated. :noidea: Did FI make the bikes faster? uhh most likely. Are they easier to ride? Probably, thanks to no more bog. However that translates into faster laptimes for everybody. You'll still have the same battles, it'll just be at a faster pace. Which if you stop and think about it, makes it even more dangerous (higher speed :crash:) I never heard of ignition maps that act like traction control, they just move/reduce your power. Sure it'll reduce wheel spin but that's because it took away the power. BTW the power reduction isn't "on the fly" like real traction control, but constant. Might as well jump on a 350. :P [/QUOTE]

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