Thanks guys I think I understand now. I was just confused because a comparison video mentioned how a rmz450 "front wheel steers" better than a kx450. Which the kx is "rear wheel steered". So position of the rider during corners would be different for each bike.
my kx500 had the same frame desigh: Apparently.
Also, tire and tire compound, soil, terra etc. has to do with it. Not going to get much out of a trials tire unless you have a big bore bike and can break the tire loose in a hardpack corner. To rear brake skid is to skid, to rear wheel stear is to pin it, lay it over and keep it going without scrubbing speed.
Oh you scrub speed.
I don't like to get on the brakes like you guys either but its very comforting knowing they are there to bail you out. riding with out them is flat out crazy! no pun intended....If I say I am steering with the back it means that I am spinning the back wheel and letting the rear end slide out to one side. Brake works to do the same thing if you want to drop a little more speed, though in days past when we rode flattracks without brakes or speedway bikes which do not have them to this day, a good rider could literally park one by over spinning the rear tire.