Oil.

Hey guys I need some answers.

When I bought my WR I Started running it with 10w-50 semi synthetic Yamalube.

Can I change oil with out problem? Either to full synthetic or no synthetic.

Will oils effect your clutch preformance. If so what have you experianced?

I'm riding in very dirty enviroments and would like to change the oil after every ride. But at $10 a change and 3-5 times a month it seems like 30-50 dollars in just oil is getting kinda goofy. Then throw in the fact we have 2 bikes now we are up to $100 a month in just oil. This kinda brings me to my thoughts of changing oil. There has to be something cheaper the Yamalub @ $40.00 a gallon.

Give me all your ideas and thoughts but please expand and tell me why.

Thanks
Bryce
 
Every ride seems to be excessive to me. I only do mine every 3-4 days of riding and have never had a problem.
I guess I should have said a weekend. I'm figuring when we ride 100 miles a weekend. (I don't have an hour meter yet)

i don't worry about quick 5-20 mile rides we do during the week. Its more the long rides on the weekend.
 
I guess I should have said a weekend and I'm figuring when we ride 100 miles a weekend. (I don't have an hour meter yet)
I still go a bit longer than that, but not too much. I change my oil every 150 miles or so. Do my air filter more often though.
 
Bryce, this is one topic that typically attracts a fairly heated debate (not here but, other sites). I am not sure on your bike - does it have a separate bath for the tranny and the engine? Sounds like you have a pretty conservative routine going :thumb: I change fluids religously and I know some guys think it is excessive but it gives me peace of mind. Different fluids can have a fairly dramatic impact on clutch performance and shifting. I adhere to the change often moreso than the run expensive stuff philosophy. I run nothing but ATF in my son's 2Ts transmissions. Outstanding performance.
 
Bryce, this is one topic that typically attracts a fairly heated debate (not here but, other sites). I am not sure on your bike - does it have a separate bath for the tranny and the engine? Sounds like you have a pretty conservative routine going :thumb: I change fluids religously and I know some guys think it is excessive but it gives me peace of mind. Different fluids can have a fairly dramatic impact on clutch performance and shifting. I adhere to the change often moreso than the run expensive stuff philosophy. I run nothing but ATF in my son's 2Ts transmissions. Outstanding performance.
Motor and tranny run on the same oil.

I'm wondering if some of my problems aren't because of the oil. I have read where guys racing were ruining clutches racing with Synthetic oils. When they went to regular oil they quit having clutch issues.:thinking:
 
Help me out here guys. There is something else that matters, (ash formula or something like that) that affects the clutch dramatically. What is it?
 
The never ending debate on which oil to use. I have always used "car" brand oils, Castrol dino to break in, then Mobil 1 synthetic, never had any clutch problems. As Naturaledge said, just don't run energy conserving oils.
ZDDP additive is the thing that most people argue over, saying that certain brands have more. It is an additive that breaks down quicker than others, however since most dirtbikers change their oil around the 500-750 mile mark (or less), I don't think it is anything to worry about
Changing your oil and filter regularly is much more important that "what brand".

Here is more info than you want to know - http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm
 

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In my two strokes I run ATF in the trans. IMO it has superior clutch feel and no difference in clutch life compared to a gear oil or motor oil.
In my 4Ts I use regular penzoil 10w-40. Changed regularily, I haven't ever had an overheat or clutch issue.
-BIG DAN:thumb:
 
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